If God really did create the universe, then it’s those of us who don’t believe in Him who are going to Heaven. God is all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good - and all too clever to believe anything without evidence. If He exists, I’m convinced He’ll reward those of us who came to the conclusion that there just isn’t enough empirical evidence to justify belief in His existence. By my reckoning, the only God befitting of the title is one that created a universe without enough evidence of Himself as a part of test to see whether you could make valid inferences from the evidence at hand. He endowed you with reason and free will, and wants to see you use it. So if you rightly conclude that the universe doesn’t provide sufficient evidence for the creator, then you have passed the creator’s test - you have used your head and you’re going to paradise!
If the God of the Bible existed, I’d do my best to make him not exist.
If he knew everything and could do anything, I know I’d probably fail. But hey! Better to die than live under that kind of tyranny.
If he had the power to create me with the free will to defy him, he has the power to take that free will away. That’s a worthless form of free will!
If he was all-good and loved me, I still wouldn’t forgive him. Because, you know what, my mother loves me and would do anything in her power for me, but we still don’t let her have the power to do whatever she wants for me, do we? We value our independence!
A benevolent dictator is still a dictator.
I don’t believe in God, but let me tell you this, if a scientific experiment proves tomorrow that the God of the Bible is real, it doesn’t follow logically that I need to worship him. There’s truth in that adjective God-fearing. If God is real, I’d be really afraid, because no matter how good his intentions, no matter how much he loves me, that much power concentrated in one person can’t be good.
God is the ultimate police state. He see and hears everything. God is the perfect totalitarian. He has complete control.
What life would be worth living if it’s not your life to live? If your life is just in the hands of God?
If you can show me God exists, the first thing I’ll do is make the Case For Satan!
He is the serpent, the Great Dragon, Beelzebul, the ruler of this world, the prince of the power of the air, the evil one, and the adversary. He is Satan. And—if you are a follower of Jesus Christ—he hates your guts with a passion. Like a roaring lion he is prowling about seeking to destroy you. How can you stand firm and resist the devil so that he will flee from you? First, do not be naive; you must consider his ways.
1. He may slander God to you in order to cast doubt on God’s goodness and shipwreck your faith (Gen 3:4-5).
He may offer criticisms and arguments against the existence and benevolence of God, as part of a healthy debate.
2. He may corrupt your mind and steer you away from the simplicity of Christ and His gospel (2 Cor 11:3).
He may help you realize that not everything in life is simple or black and white, and that you need to really think through and analyse things to get to the truth.
3. He may wrestle against you, fighting against your progress in Christ (Eph 6:12).
He may challenge you in order to help you see whether you really believe what you say you believe.
4. He may tempt you to commit sexual immorality against your spouse as a result of neglecting the intimacy of the marriage bed (1 Cor 7:5).
He may help you realize that you love somebody else, and that it would be best for both parties if the relationship ended, you both moved on and maintained a cordial friendship.
5. He may harass you with some form of fleshly affliction (2 Cor 12:7).
He may make you realize that true beauty isn’t skin deep.
6. He may blind the spiritual eyes of your unsaved family, friends, and neighbors so that they may not see the glory of Jesus in the gospel (2 Cor 4:4).
He may help your family, friends and neighbours not to believe blindly in the Bible, and instead create an atmosphere of independent thinking in your community.
7. He may keep your unsaved acquaintances in bondage to sins that hinder them from coming to God (Gal 4:8).
He may help your two best mates from the pub realize that they do in fact love each other, and even though you tell them it’s sinful, they enter a civil partnership, and live happily ever after.
He may smite you with a vaccine.
He may offer you the option of choosing to die rather than putting yourself and your family through the grief of suffering from the pain of a terminal illness.
He may sow questions in the minds of the believers in order to create an interesting variety of opinions.
11. He may lead you toward theological compromise by causing you to be friendly to false doctrine and its teachers (1 Tim 4:1-3).
He may help you reassess your beliefs in the light of new evidence flooding in from that new-fangled thing they call science.
12. He may persecute you for your godliness (Rev 2:10).
He may disagree with you.
He may offer you a big red juicy apple as part of your five-a-day.
14. He is—at this moment—prowling about seeking to capture and destroy you, chiefly through pride (1 Pet 5:6-8).
He praises you for your hard work, giving you the weekend off, instead of condemning you every Sunday.
15. He will most assuredly slander you before God in heaven (Rev 12:10).
He may try to tell the apparently all-knowing God that he knows you better.
16. He may ask God for permission to sift you out for concentrated attack and temptation (Luke 22:31).
He may ask the apparently all-good God if he is allowed to do bad things to you.
17. He may use the power of suggestion to move you away from the will of God (Matt 16:21-23).
He may attempt to steal you from the apparently all-powerful God.
18. He may try to cripple your effectiveness through confusion, discouragement, and despair (2 Cor 4:8-9).
He may open your eyes to the fact that world is a complex place and that you need far more than a dusty old book to live a happy life.
The first time I read His Dark Materials, I wandered around for five days thinking Metatron was going to spear me to death at any moment for reading such heresy. I was actually afraid. That, my friends, is why telling an eight-year old boy that if he dares disobey Catholic teaching he will go to Hell is always wrong.
A man who was his own father impregnated his own (virgin) mother, grew up and went about giving well-meaning but impractical advice while planning to get himself tortured and crucified to sacrifice himself, to himself, to exploit a loop-hole that he created to save humanity from an arbitrary rule that he created, after which he rose from the dead and became a man in the sky who loves you and who will do worse than kill you if don’t love him back.
You’re not a Christian because you make straw man arguments to get out of understanding, or even trying to understand, what we actually believe.
There is no such thing as a “man in the sky” for one, because God is incorporeal. Just for one thing.
Jesus is not the Father, and the Father is not Jesus, but both are God. So no, again, you are factually incorrect about that.
“well-meaning but impractical” advice? It’s only impractical if you don’t find ways to make it practical. Because treating others how I would like to be treated is pretty practical. It means you don’t be a douchebag to other people, basically. You don’t treat them like shit. you respect them.
“Will do worse than kill you”. Uhm… No. God doesn’t send people to Hell. People send themselves. If you don’t want to be around God, God isn’t going to force you to be with God. That would completely undermine free will.
Is this not the second time you’ve reblogged my rather tongue-in-cheek post??? And also: having been raised by devout Catholics, and myself still a churchgoer (for family reasons I can’t help), I feel that is quite a reasonable summary of Christian belief. And of course, because this is an exercise in religious discourse, I am can quite simply say this is what I [=my Church] believes and you have no right to question it. I have faith that this is why I am not a Christian, I have faith that this is what most Christians believe. You have faith in Christianity. Let’s be religious and respect each other’s views cos, well, we believe ‘em don we?
Well, you’ve admitted now that you only go because you’re made to go. You probably haven’t taken a theology course beyond the high school level, and if you have, I find it probable that you didn’t take it seriously.
This post is insulting to me for being a Christian. You think it’s tongue-in-cheek, but it’s not. It’s derisive and inflammatory. I’m not questioning what you believe, I’m saying that what you said is insulting.
Well, I am in high school so that can’t be helped. For what its worth I spent this afternoon discussing ‘what is life’ with the school chaplain (who has a doctorate in philosophy) and he seems to think I have a decent head on me…
May I ask: so what???
If I were to write a post, say, criticizing Marxism by taking its doctrines and theories literally in a tongue-in-cheek fashion , would ‘but you’re insulting my beliefs’ be a satisfactory response? In a free society one has the right to criticize, possible offend, the political beliefs of others. Why not the religious beliefs? Science progresses by self-criticism and peer-review - why is it only religion that is allowed to get rid of criticism by calling it ‘insulting.’???